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Frozen In Time: Seminar on Michael Jackson’s Two Judicial Cases


Los Angeles County BAR Association, LACBA, held a “continuing Education” seminar, for $150 per ticket for Lawyers and Law Students, on Sept. 15, 2010. See William J. Wagener report as follows:

Tom Mesereau Speaking at ‘FROZEN IN TIME: A Riveting Behind-the-Scenes View of the Michael Jackson Cases’

Thomas A Mesereau Jr.
Tom Mesereau Speaking at ‘FROZEN IN TIME: A Riveting Behind-the-Scenes View of the Michael Jackson Cases’

September 15, 2010 – Los Angeles County Bar Association

Presented by: Senior Lawyers Division

Co-Sponsored by: Criminal Justice Section

Program Information:
A fascinating historical and legal analysis of the Michael Jackson civil and criminal cases will be provided by the participants.

The judge, Honorable Rodney Melville (Retired);

the prosecutor, Deputy District Attorney Ronald Zonen;

defense attorney Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr. who represented Jackson in the Santa Barbara criminal trial;

attorney Larry Feldman who represented the alleged victim in the civil case;

attorney Carl E. Douglas who represented Jackson in the criminal investigation of the civil case; and moderator Seth Hufstedler will offer insights into these highly publicized and very unique examples of California celebrity cases.

Carl E. Douglas, The Douglas Law Group  
Larry R. Feldman, Kaye Scholer LLP  
Seth M. Hufstedler, Morrison & Foerster LLP  
Hon. Rodney Melville (Retired)  
Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., Mesereau & Yu LLP  
Ronald J. Zonen, Santa Barbara Deputy District Attorney

Los Angeles County Bar Association
1055 West 7th Street, 27th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90017

Room: La Fig: La Brea/La Cienega/Figueroa Conference Room

1055 W. 7th Street: $5 with validation (entering after 5:00 p.m.);
$10 with valication (entering before 5:00 p.m.)

Registration: 5:30 – 6:00 p.m.
Meal/Reception: 5:30 p.m.
Program: 6:00 – 9:30 p.m.



Law Students with meal $35.00
CLE+Plus Members with meal $55.00
Law Faculty with meal $65.00
Senior Lawyers Division Members with meal $75.00
Barristers with meal $75.00
Judges with meal $85.00
Government Attorneys with meal $85.00
Legal Service Attorneys with meal $85.00
Criminal Justice Section Members with meal $85.00
Litigation Section Members with meal $85.00
At the Door with meal $90.00
LACBA Members with meal $110.00
All Others with meal $150.00

Space is limited. Advance payment required to guarantee seating. Attendees must arrive within the registration period. If this program does not state that it is sold out, please feel free to register at the door. 48-hours (2 business days) cancellation notice required.

The Los Angeles County Bar Association is a State Bar of California MCLE approved provider. If this is a CLE event, the Los Angeles County Bar Association certifies that this activity has been approved for MCLE credit. CLE events will state the amount and type of credit offered in the calendar listing.



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Richard I. Fine: Finally Freed


After 19 months of wrongful incarceration, Richard I. Fine was freed last Friday.

William J. Wagener report follows:  

William J. Wagener: ¿Quién Es? (Who Is?)






BUT IT CAN BE SO UGLY !!  (W.J. Wagener)

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William J. Wagener: “Tom Sneddon falsificó pruebas y debería ser juzgado por ello.”

En este video William J. Wagener explica qué pruebas falsificó Tom Sneddon en el juicio contra Michael Jackson en 2005 y “exije” que sea juzgado por ese delito.

P.D: Si Usted piensa que esta información llega tarde, tiene Usted toda la razón. “Pero nunca es tarde si la dicha …”.

P.S: If you think that this information has reached you, or has reached “people”, “too late”, you are,  in my personal opinion, most certainly right. But there is a Spanish saying that states: “Nunca es tarde si la dicha es buena”.


“We got such crooked people in office, people that wouldn’t even come on this show but they want my vote. They won’t come on my show and let me answer questions. I’d say six judges, in this County, right now, this election, June, primary,  I want all these Judges to come on and answer questions.

I wanna ask them why they didn’t demand, because they are officers of the Court, why  that Tom Sneddon be indicted for falsifying evidence in the Michael Jackson trial. And I was a witness. I was right there in the court room! Watched him get caught: false fingerprints evidence, the phone evidence that they tried to create. They said it was conspiracy and all these phone charges: half a day on that !  Then Sneddon wanted to withdraw it from the evidence pool in the Court !

No! The defender, Tom Mesereau, said : “No! That  stays on. ” Judge said : “Right. It’s already been entered, that stays.” And the jury looked at all this false evidence and said :” There is no way we can convict this guy. We got a pile of crap from Tom Sneddon.”

And Tom Sneddon has probably endorsed you, hasn’t he ?       Ehh.. No. I know Tom. I know him kinda briefly.. But I was never really that close because I was… else here. He was an elected official and I was… you know … here.

You washed your hands after shaking his hand? I mean this guy is literally falsifying evidence and it’s on the record !

William J Wagener: Special Message to MJ fans


Welcome. We, the people, we got to recognize that we cannot fight all the battles against what’s evil in our government by ourself. We need to join forces.

I have never done a message like this that is targeted just to the Michael Jackson’s fans.  If you really want to see Justice done in the trial coming up here in April, the state of California versus “the doctor”  who is supposed to take care of Michael while he is sleeping …. This trial is going to be held in Los Angeles in the most secure environment they can design to protect “the doctor”, as well as all witnesses. However, the chances of a truly lawful and fair trial with all the witnesses coming forth are close to ZERO, somewhere between five percent and zero.

This is a stage trial to make sure that nobody really pays a heavy penalty for the death of Michael Jackson.

Why do I say that ? How can I say that before we even know for sure which judge will actually conduct a trial? Which prosecutor? I urge you, Michael Jackson’s fans and those who care about Justice to take a look at a video clip I did a year ago called “Free Fine”. That’s “Free Fine”.

The reason why this is important to you is that Richard Fine caught ALL of the Los Angeles County judges of the superior court, the state’s superior court, that work in the city of Los Angeles, he caught “ALL OF THEM”  taking open written bribes in the form of monthly checks.

Under the Law they would only take the state’s salary. That was the law. For the last twenty years since they went from becoming County superior court  judges to State superior court judges. Yet, all of them, or virtually all of them, in Los Angeles County over the last twenty years chose to take open bribes.

It wasn’t enough that they now getting paid $171.000, approximately $14.000 a month plus benefits, private parking, security, all that. That wasn’t enough. They took an additional $4.000 a month from the county of Los Angeleswhich Richard Fine proved it was unlawful, was a civil tort, a wrong and a penal code. He took it to… Richard Fine took it to the California Appellate Court, which is the last and final court that ruled out and said “you’re right Mr. Richard I. Fine, attorney-at-law. This was a penal code violation and this was unlawful”. 

Then what happened is the State legislators retroactively went back, retroactively, and made it all legal. Anybody that studied the law knows that you can’t make laws prohibiting something that is illegal and make it legal or vice versa. Tha was legal make it illegal retroactively. That’s never been the common law.

Well that’s what the State legislators did and governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law. There was no press coverage of it. This happened in a week, one week, a single week, in February 2009. So what are the chances that you will get an honest judge, who can’t be bribed when we already know, when Richard Fine has already proved that ALL of the Los Angeles County judges, State superior judges, have been bribed and now the State government has not only not worked out its checks and balances, but has legalized, or they think they’ve legalized, by making them all, retroactively, O.K. for them to take bribes from one briber.

Why is that important ? Because Richard Fine has proved that in a period of about 3 years the County of Los Angeles paying the bribes to the corrupt Los Angeles State Superior Court judges they didn’t loose a single court case. Now, I ask you: do you think that is relevant to whether the man accused of causing the death of Michael Jackson will get a fair trial or will it get a rubber stamp, small verdict, a kind of a play, and be out the door with virtually no jail time, and then there will be an end of evidence to follow up the trail to see who really was behind the doctor to make this happen?

You, Michael Jackson fans, if you really care, you need to go protest for Richard Fine. You need to go look at “Free Richard Fine” and “Zerman on Fine”. And you need to demand that this trial be moved OUT of the County of Los Angeles to a county where the judges don’t take open bribes.

Otherwise, you’ll get another kangoroo trial, just like Michael had in 2005, except the evidence was so overwhelming bad, the evidence in 2005 was so tainted, so constructed by a boggle of criminal prosecutors domming up false evidence that Michael won that one.

Well Michael is not here to hire attorneys, to fight for himself. So the way you can bring  pressure on this to move the trial is to bring pressure on getting Richard Fine out of L.A.  jail. He’s been held for over a year, right in downtown L.A. lockup.

Thousands of you fans are now going to watch how this trial  will come to Los Angeles and what you ought to do is take time out to go down and protest for Richard Fine. Bring attention to the fact that all these judges, no matter which one dictates Los Angeles is gonna be a judge that took open bribes.  

Is that the kind of judge you, Michael Jacksons fans, want deciding how Michael was killed? I’m William Wagener hoping to that we, The People, we will pull together getting Richard Fine out of jail for exposing  this. Because the national and the state media has done a total blackout on Richard Fine.

Why is that do you think? Cause they don’t want you to know that California has now become a total facist state and the number One POLITICAL PRISONER OF CALIFORNIA is RICHARD FINE, proves that statement is true.

I’m William Wagener. I’m not a Michael Jackson’s fan though many of you think I am. I am a fan of Justice and true common law applied in the light of day, not in the darkness of judges chambers and sidebars and deals cut behind the back and make it retroactively legal.

So 450 criminals who sit  on the benches of Los Angeles county won’t have to go to jail. It’s up to you. Go see “Free Fine” and “Zerman on Fine”.

See you soon.